To be or not to be: Kim Jong Il’s successor

The Takeaway

The following is not a full transcript; for full story, listen to audio.

The reports from South Korea say that the North Korean leader instructed the country’s diplomats to pledge allegiance to his son, who is reported to be in his 20’s. To find out what this means for the future of U.S. relations with Korea, "The Takeaway" talks to BBC’s Chris Hogg who is following this closely from Seoul, South Korea.

Hogg: "I have to say that some of the people that I’m speaking to tonight, here in Seoul, some of the more experienced North Korea watchers are pouring cold water on this.

"Look, they say the reality is there are two things you never talk about in North Korea: You never talk about the health of the "dear leader" as they call him, and you never talk about his family. So the idea that these rumors are coming out, which is suggesting that a decision has been made — they are saying that is unlikely. Basically, their point is this: A secret decision is no decision at all."

Hogg says the information is coming from South Korean intelligence, which is another reason to question the story: "The other point they’re making is, you have to think about where is this information coming from — this is information that has come from the South Korean intelligence agency, from a briefing that they made to lawmakers … one has to think hard about those intelligence sources and what they’re trying to achieve."

As for all the recent posturing by North Korea — from the nuclear tests, the canceling of 1953 armistice, the discussion of succession, Hogg says: "What North Korean watchers are saying to me is that, they had always expected that when President Obama took office, the North Korean leader would try to raise the stakes; he would try to exact concessions from the new administration. What has surprised them has been the extent to which the stakes have been raised. This all is more intense than they expected. From that, they suggest that there is some domestic issue in this; there is something going on inside the very secretive government, something that none of us can know about; a lot of us can speculate about."

"The Takeaway" is a national morning news program, delivering the news and analysis you need to catch up, start your day, and prepare for what’s ahead. The show is a co-production of WNYC and PRI, in editorial collaboration with the BBC, The New York Times Radio, and WGBH.

More at thetakeaway.org

Will you support The World with a monthly donation?

There is no paywall on the story you just read because a community of dedicated listeners and readers have contributed to keep the global news you rely on free and accessible for all. Will you join the 319 donors who have supported The World so far? From now until Dec. 31, your gift will help us unlock a $67,000 match. Donate today to double your impact!