For Ben Rhodes, like for so many others, 9/11 was a life changing event. At the time, he was a graduate student in New York, studying creative writing, but soon after he went down to Washington, and started on a path that led him towards being an integral part of the Obama administration. Host Marco Werman speaks with Ben Rhodes, about the last 20 years since 9/11, and about his perspective on the end of the US mission in Afghanistan.