US and Iranian delegations met in person at the Serena Hotel in Islamabad this weekend. They spoke for 21 hours without achieving a breakthrough. Former Deputy US Secretary of State Wendy Sherman, chief negotiator for the Obama-era nuclear deal, isn’t surprised the talks broke down. She explains to The World’s Host Carolyn Beeler how DOGE and the dismantling of US diplomatic expertise are hindering US efforts to end the war.
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