Pinpointing the “end” of the COVID-19 pandemic depends on the vantage point. Medical professionals wait for death rates to subside and immunity to build. Social scientists tend to focus on perceived risk. The World’s host Marco Werman speaks with sociologist Zeynep Tufekci and Dr. Michael Mina, the chief science officer at eMed, about what indicators they’re looking toward as coronavirus control measures begin to sunset.